|

A China trade conversation with FXStreet senior analyst Joseph Trevisani

Q: The US China trade agreement seems to be inching to a positive conclusion. Is there a chance that the talks could fail?

For the two sides to have traveled this far I think a breakdown would be unlikely.  More importantly it is in the self-interest of both parties that the deal is completed.  China’s economy needs the boost that the agreement will provide. The decline in US capital spending that we have seen this year is being duplicated overseas and China is still the world’s largest destination for foreign capital.  If business are not investing in the United States they are not investing in China.  I don’t think the dispute has reached the breaking point for long-term investment decisions yet. Supply chains are complicated and difficult to move. China has spent 30 years building its network of secondary manufacturers. Were there to be an end to negotiations and a revision to an antagonistic face-off the investment future would look quite different.  If a cold or hot trade war were to start again firms would have to consider several years of dispute and that time-frame would probably make investment in China much more problematical.

The US economy, while in reasonably good shape could also use the fillip. Manufacturing and factory employment has been hard hit and we are approaching the 2020 presidential election. The campaign will be in earnest as soon as the year ends.

Q: Will the US Congressional declaration of support for Hong Kong signed by President Trump have an impact?

Probably not.  It is after all simply a statement of support.  Hong Kong is legally part of China.  Had the Chinese sent troops into the city to quell the protests and the riots then the reaction of the US and others might have been different. Certainly it would have complicated the trade negotiations considerably. Not for the talk themselves, but because of the likely political demands that the talks be used as a means of bringing pressure on Beijing.  Thankfully that has not happened and the disturbances seem to have moderated.  

The district council election held on November 24th was a huge victory for the pro-democracy parties and with a 71% participation rate is can well be said to represent the will of the Hong Kong people.

How reliable is the yuan level in indicating Chinese intentions on trade?

I would have to say very.  The yuan began to fall against the dollar in mid-2018 after the tariff impositions began in earnest and it went to its ten year low in six months.  It recovered as talks progressed only to fall sharply with the late-summer disagreement. October’s preliminary agreement brought the USD/CNY down again but notably it has remained above 7.0 to the dollar. 

 

The problem for the People’s Bank of China is that with its economy integrated to the globe, a weaker yuan has large effects within China.  As it falls it makes imports more expensive not only for consumers but for the many assembly plants in China. It also makes the repatriation of foreign profits more costly though likely encouraging local investment by foreign firms as well.

The biggest effect of a thoroughly political yuan is on future investment. There is nothing preventing Beijing from dropping the value of the yuan to 7.5 or 8.0 to the dollar or lower. But a highly variable and devaluing yuan undermines the financial basis of every foreign investment, present and future, in China. Beijing cannot hope to attract foreign capital if investing firms cannot anticipate a stable financial environment.  There are many countries in Asia and elsewhere willing to promise such stability even if they do not yet have China’s well developed supply chain capability.

Author

Joseph Trevisani

Joseph Trevisani began his thirty-year career in the financial markets at Credit Suisse in New York and Singapore where he worked for 12 years as an interbank currency trader and trading desk manager.

More from Joseph Trevisani
Share:

Markets move fast. We move first.

Orange Juice Newsletter brings you expert driven insights - not headlines. Every day on your inbox.

By subscribing you agree to our Terms and conditions.

Editor's Picks

EUR/USD clings to small gains near 1.1750

Following a short-lasting correction in the early European session, EUR/USD regains its traction and clings to moderate gains at around 1.1750 on Monday. Nevertheless, the pair's volatility remains low, with investors awaiting this weeks key data releases from the US and the ECB policy announcements.

GBP/USD remains confined in a range above mid-1.3300s ahead of UK jobs report

The GBP/USD pair extends its sideways consolidative price move through the Asian session on Tuesday and currently trades around the 1.3370-1.3365 region, nearly unchanged for the day. Traders seem reluctant and opt to wait for this week's important macro releases and the key central bank event risk before placing fresh directional bets.

Gold defends $4,300 as focus shifts to US NFP, PMI data

Gold price holds the $4,300 level, easing from the highest since October 21 in the Asian trading hours on Tuesday. The precious metal stays afloat on further US Federal Reserve rate cut bets. The US Nonfarm Payrolls report will take center stage later on Tuesday. Also, the US Retail Sales and Purchasing Managers Index will be published. 

Ethereum: BitMine acquires 102,259 ETH as price plunges 5%

Ethereum treasury company BitMine Immersion scaled up its digital asset stash last week after acquiring 102,259 ETH since its last update. The purchase has increased the company's holdings to 3.96 million ETH, worth about $11.82 billion. BitMine aims to accumulate 5% of ETH's circulating supply.

NFP preview: Complex data release will determine if Fed was right to cut rates

The long wait is over, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the US will release nonfarm payrolls reports for both November and October at 1330 GMT on Tuesday. The overall NFP figure for October is expected to be -10k, however, it is expected to be influenced by a massive 130k drop in federal department workers. 

Solana Price Forecast: SOL consolidates as spot ETF inflows near $1 billion signal institutional dip-buying

Solana (SOL) price hovers above $131 at the time of writing on Monday, nearing the upper boundary of a falling wedge pattern, awaiting a decisive breakout.